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36 thoughts on “The Career/Motherhood Lose-Lose For Women”
  1. I think there is a big issue with women hating other women. Women that work and have kids think that women that don’t work and have kids stay at home in pure bliss all day and women that stay at home hate them for thinking that, yet the one thing we can all agree on is that raising kids is the hardest job any of us do. I work full time now and have done for most of my life. But when my son was a baby my hours got cut from full time to 21 hours a week. Then my partner left the army and got a really good paying job, but the company went bankrupt and he lost his job after 6 months. My job was bringing in 8000 a year. So we left my job and moved 2 hours away and stayed with my partners parents. I got a job teaching English online and some months I was working 60 hours. I picked the hours but you made £6 every half hour. And you didn’t always get classes. That’s what happened to me, I stopped getting work, I also worked a Chinese takeaway in the evenings. I was spending hardly any time with my child and I hated it. I quite the teaching job and continued the Chinese job and the job is hard and stressful. My sleep routine was all over the place. It brought in maybe £160 a week which is fine but I was at home most days. My little boy at school and I was so depressed. It was really really bad. I just slept all the time. The job I left that one for is 39 hours a week making £10.47 an hour which is amazing and I’m so happy to earn that, but my little boy gets taken to school by his gran everyday and picked up and he has dinner at her 4 nights a week. But I have Fridays and weekends off and we always make sure we do something every weekend. It’s not good for the bank but it’s the best way to make memories, I pick my little one up at 6pm mon-thur and he goes to bed at 2030.

  2. Mother hood is a carreer and we all need to say that .
    I'm a stay at home mother of 4 I cook from scratch I inform my kids about posions in packaged food and fast food. I have 20 chickens that lay eggs and grow tomatoes.
    Yet my family wants me to go make money from the wvil reptilian overload .

  3. Honestly, a lot of men are fine with "high status woman" but I'd argue that with being high status, women become way more aggressive. It's required, the more important issues you solve, the tougher you need to be. We don't choose women based on how tough they can be. We want them soft. We want them to soften us up after a hard day of work. To admire us for our work, not to silently compare themselves to us.

  4. If you value being "liked" by society more than doing your job properly or bringing up your childern properly then your self imagined problems will never resolve. Get your priorities straight and grow the hell up!

  5. What about woman who don’t have kids but they are kept housewives with some animals and that’s it? There is so much taboo and negative stereotypes associated with this. So much hate like saying if you aren’t career focused OR raising kids than you are wasting your life. Since when has a woman living life in her feminine energy however way she chooses to, something for anyone to look down on?

  6. I don't see any evidence that women are still being treated unfairly by men. If you're going to make such a offensive claim, then at least provide the evidence to back it up or go join Antifa.

  7. Excellent starting point. Maybe instead of "end/cancel" to "outgrow/upgrade"? Who has to end – what exactly? How? Who is going to do it? How? Replace it with what?… How is this different for Fatherhood vs Carrier? Maybe…we have to change valu measurement from nerrow econometrics ( gdp and its growth) to some other, more human-centric matrix.

  8. Interestingly when you say respect and competency with regards to career or not, it's really money making ability or maybe financial independence,

    There are definitely many forms of currency that could be respected more, I think that's the norm, nobody wants to be poor or homeless, nomad lifestyle, though theoretically if you have enough to eat and you're resourceful and clean and have good values there's nothing saying that's a bad way to live, but with indoor plumbing and air conditioning and even how much land you own or how big your house is, people judge you and especially women judge you

  9. Most of the men I know hold mothers in absolute reverence.. basic respect doesn't even encapsulate it.. maybe it's just the circle of respectable people that I allow around myself… but I don't believe that motherhood is as frowned upon as this seems to suggest..

  10. I love how she presents the problem, says it needs to change but nothing about how it’s supposed to change.
    These biases have come around with years and years of conditioning so same amount if not more would need to be done to change these perceptions, not gonna magically change just because some white woman says it does 🤣🤣

  11. 100% this! I (35 years old) explained to my female friend (25 years old) that I WANT to be a housewife and have children while she has chosen her career and “might not want children” and she very clearly discouraged my husband from supportive me/encouraging me. And she claims to be a feminist 😅

  12. The solution is called mothers working from home: first: to invest in their family, second: to earn an extra income

  13. Bingo!! A good mother who is evolving, being accountable, industrious right in their very home, creating that 'shelter' a home is GOLD.

  14. I will say one thing about you I don't think you're in a lose-lose I think you're one of the leaders I don't know why us men have to be so chauvinistic I happen not to be that way I've been following you for a while and I send you love and peace and I just think you're so smart and such a beautiful person on the inside I totally support everything that you speak about because you only speak the truth thank you for everything till swan you will always be my friend for sure and my heart and soul I send you love and I send you peace

  15. Men who choose to be stay at home fathers are also not valued. I think we don't value parenthood in general because nearly everyone can do it. Even if they do a poor job of raising it, most people can have a baby. Jobs that people respect have some barrier to entry and parenthood doesn't have that.

  16. It's the feminists that destroyed the value/respect of stay at home moms…not the 'society'.You can see that in the comments in this comment section itself.

  17. Femininity and the Feminine is devalued by society. If you're Feminine you're seen as less important than men, a doormat. If you're a masculine woman your body and life suffers but people respect you more. No one respects Femininity. It's seen as weak, being a leech/ golddigger, unimportant and insignificant compared to man and masculine roles. The feminine needs healthy masculine to thrive (and vice versa) but men need to want to step into that role and care for women WITHOUT trying to control Woman (which is impossible and why the feminist movement began). I see women having to do it all themselves bc men don't step up which perpetuates the cycle.

  18. Well you could be a man. Where your only respected if your one of the 10-20% of men that are winners.

    Otherwise, you’re not respected at all.

  19. What makes you think successful men are liked? Jealousy is endemic. Regardless, sounds like you neither have a successful career or a family, thus you're the one in the lose-lose. Most people don't think that much: they're too busy working or caring for their families.

  20. Women do it all to themselves and simps let them. The West is collapsing as matriarchy gains ground.

    Accountability brings value, whatever you choose to do, but you will never get this.

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