Islam and "LGBTQ": Gender, Sexuality, Morality & Identity with Dr Carl Sharif El-Tobgui



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(The slide deck linked here is a slightly modified, updated version of the deck used in the recorded presentation.)

Chapters:
0:00 – Introduction
0:16 – Background of the Guest
0:39 – Topic of the Presentation
2:07 – Introduction to the Topic
6:38 – Title of the Presentation
7:45 – Contents of the Presentation
11:06 – LGBT in Literature
13:27 – LGBT in Media
15:44 – LGBT in Schools
17:49 – LGBT in Global Affairs
21:42 – Burger King Pride Whopper
26:37 – LGBT & Islam
32:53 – The Sexual Revolution
59:10 – Amalgamation & Separation
1:15:56 – Sexual Revolution: Antecedents
1:46:48 – Homosexuality in the wake of the Sexual Revolution
1:54:59 – On the creation of the Male & Female
1:57:06 – Men & Women in the Qur’an
2:00:39 – Difference & Complementarity of the Male & Female
2:05:32 – The Nature of Morality & Ethics in Islam
2:12:24 – Contemporary Moral & Ethical Discourse
2:15:46 – Islamic Sexual & Gender Norms
2:18:36 – Consequences of Zina
2:20:14 – Norms for minimizing Zina
2:22:00 – Is zina the only thing forbidden in the realm of sexuality?
2:22:44 – What is permitted?
2:23:03 – What is prohibited?
2:25:41 – Protection of Family/Lineage in Sharia
2:28:56 – Further Islamic Principles about gender
2:31:59 – Islamic Position on the Non-Binary
2:34:16 – Is one sinful for having homosexual feelings?
2:36:58 – The “Genderbread” Person
2:38:26 – Gender (Non) conformity in Islam
2:46:56 – What is Homosexuality?
1. The Contemporary Background
2:52:04 – Amalgamation & Separation
2:53:58 – Verses on the People of Lot pbuh
3:09:53 – 2. Building an Islamic Framework (1)
3:11:18 – Answering “What does Islam say about Homosexuality?”
3:11:55 – Implications of accepting Western sexual identity framework?
3:13:51 – Building an Islamic Framework (2)
3:16:29 – Straight Struggles: The Subjective Experience
3:25:41 – Further Questions
3:26:42 – Gay Men being able to function Heterosexually
3:28:42 – More Questions
3:30:20 – Working Towards Principles:
3:30:27 – 1. Strongly establish Islamic gender/sexuality paradigm
3:34:39 – 2. Rejection of the sexual identity paradigm
3:36:43 – 3. No Gay Exceptionalism
3:40:06 – 4. Balancing feelings vs objective truths
3:41:56 – 5. Supporting the faithful struggler
3:42:31 – 6. Maintaining the Straight Path
3:44:14 – Some Resources
3:46:45 – “A way beyond the rainbow” podcast
3:50:48 – Closing RemarksTimestamps:
0:00 – Introduction
0:16 – Background of the Guest
0:39 – Topic of the Presentation
2:07 – Introduction to the Topic
6:38 – Title of the Presentation
7:45 – Contents of the Presentation
11:06 – LGBT in Literature
13:27 – LGBT in Media
15:44 – LGBT in Schools
17:49 – LGBT in Global Affairs
21:42 – Burger King Pride Whopper
26:37 – LGBT & Islam
32:53 – The Sexual Revolution
59:10 – Amalgamation & Separation
1:15:56 – Sexual Revolution: Antecedents
1:46:48 – Homosexuality in the wake of the Sexual Revolution
1:54:59 – On the creation of the Male & Female
1:57:06 – Men & Women in the Qur’an
2:00:39 – Difference & Complementarity of the Male & Female
2:05:32 – The Nature of Morality & Ethics in Islam
2:12:24 – Contemporary Moral & Ethical Discourse
2:15:46 – Islamic Sexual & Gender Norms
2:18:36 – Consequences of Zina
2:20:14 – Norms for minimizing Zina
2:22:00 – Is zina the only thing forbidden in the realm of sexuality?
2:22:44 – What is permitted?
2:23:03 – What is prohibited?
2:25:41 – Protection of Family/Lineage in Sharia
2:28:56 – Further Islamic Principles about gender
2:31:59 – Islamic Position on the Non-Binary
2:34:16 – Is one sinful for having homosexual feelings?
2:36:58 – The “Genderbread” Person
2:38:26 – Gender (Non) conformity in Islam
2:46:56 – What is Homosexuality?
1. The Contemporary Background
2:52:04 – Amalgamation & Separation
2:53:58 – Verses on the People of Lot pbuh
3:09:53 – 2. Building an Islamic Framework (1)
3:11:18 – Answering “What does Islam say about Homosexuality?”
3:11:55 – Implications of accepting Western sexual identity framework?
3:13:51 – Building an Islamic Framework (2)
3:16:29 – Straight Struggles: The Subjective Experience
3:25:41 – Further Questions
3:26:42 – Gay Men being able to function Heterosexually
3:28:42 – More Questions
3:30:20 – Working Towards Principles:
3:30:27 – 1. Strongly establish Islamic gender/sexuality paradigm
3:34:39 – 2. Rejection of the sexual identity paradigm
3:36:43 – 3. No Gay Exceptionalism
3:40:06 – 4. Balancing feelings vs objective truths
3:41:56 – 5. Supporting the faithful struggler
3:42:31 – 6. Maintaining the Straight Path
3:44:14 – Some Resources
3:46:45 – “A way beyond the rainbow” podcast
3:50:48 – Closing Remarks

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40 thoughts on “Islam and "LGBTQ": Gender, Sexuality, Morality & Identity with Dr Carl Sharif El-Tobgui

  1. We madkhalis from darus sunnah and salafi publications support Paul Williams we want you to come to masjid Dinar shepherd's bush give lgbt khutba to our salafi brothers, who are in the closet and need to come out

  2. I hope someone can help me advice on this. As a Muslim, does it mean I can't support my non-muslim lgbtq+ friends on the fight for their freedom on basic human rights? I have non-muslim friends who are discriminated against in workplaces for coming out publicly as a queer. And ofcourse, not only my friend, but we hear many stories on queers being shamed, denied, discriminated against their basic rights such as education, housing, medical etc. So like, if my friends do protests publicly or via social media to fight for these, its wrong then for me to re-share/comment on their posts and to join in their protests?

  3. this is the latest fad. 1960's sexual revolution. premarital sex ….muslims said no thanx. 70's abortion as birth control muslims said no thanx. 90's 2000's gay marriage muslims said no thanx. 2010-2020's transgender kids. muslims said no thanx. next fad ? men who demand the right to follow little girls into public restrooms no thanx

  4. It seems Islam and other conservative religions are having a hard time dealing with the reality of sexual diversity in human societies. Perhaps progressive Muslims in western countries will cause a schism or a reformation of attitudes and behaviours. There are 40-90 million LGBTQ Muslims, so this issue may grow in the future.

  5. The speaker misspoke when he said that 20 percent of characters in mainstream movies identified as LGBTQ+. The correct stat is 20 percent of films have an LGBTQ+ character in them, making for a much smaller overall percentage of LGBTQ+ characters.

  6. Blogging Theology seems unaware of the fact that Israel is the only Middle Eastern nation boasting a Pride parade. LGBTQ+ rights are much stronger there than in any other nation in the region.

  7. The problem with supportive and compassionate and loving communities vis a vis LGBTQ+ Muslims is that it does nothing to change the very nature of the individual. They have needs which are not being met, and Islam causes suffering by asking these Muslims to sublimate their nature to submission to an ideology. It's why some Muslims commit suicide fearing rejection from family or community, fearing Hell, needing affection, love, intimacy and a relationship. Islam is way behind and is trying to plug a hole in a dam with Islamic sexual ethics while the western or secular liberal world is changing and acknoweldging the human rights of LGBTQ+ people.

  8. Ma sha Allah. Sidi Paul, this was a great video. Many thanks to you and Dr. El-Tobgui for putting so much time into this. I hope the Dr doesn't get cancelled after this presentation. I haven't given much thought to this subject as I've been living in countries where the gender and sexuality paradigm is strong. As is usually the case, the problem or challenge is from the incorrect analysis of the issue. The explanation of the cultural shift which unbound sex, reproduction and marriage/family while combining desires, acts/behaviors and identities was enlightening. It was much more useful than most any Muslim "reaction" video of the What is a Woman documentary. It reminded me a lot of the Muslim Skeptic's review of that documentary where he also highlighted the influence of classical liberalism on the issue. When I think about these two related things, I'm shocked to see just how similar modern progressives, conservatives and libertarians are on the issue. They're generally pitted against each other according to the modern context, however most agree that these acts are acceptable (at least in private), and they only disagree to what extent the government needs to embrace, advocate and accommodate these acts and if they should be manifested with specific identities that are likewise accommodated. I also appreciated how the devious agenda of socially engineering these "gender identities" was exposed. I recently saw a woman comment on a FB post of the new Buzz Lightyear movie and she said something along the lines of "at least kids who are that way won't feel like it's not normal." But it's not normal. That's not saying that such people with those inclinations should be discriminated against or denied rights, but at the same time it's certainly not normal, and it's dishonest to portray it as such. May Allah protect us and guide us.

  9. Simply outstanding. Desperately needed and very well done. Thank you for giving us insight into this extremely important topic. We need to become more educated on how to respond to this issue from an Islamic perspective, unapologetically; and this definitely provides us with some talking points. Thank you.

  10. This was a stellar presentation – balanced, sensitive, realistic, within the context of a positive reception of traditional understandings of human anthropology from an Islamic perspective. I really enjoyed it. Thank you!

  11. I missed you brother Paul! Glad to be back on social media and on my favourite YouTube channel 😊

    What an immensely important topic this is, especially in the light of how out-of-control the alphabet mafia has become and is forcing their damaging and sinful ideology on government, corporations, law and the wider global society.

    It honestly feels like Islam is the only shield against this outrageousness.

    Anyways, loving the fact that I’ll be watching the plethora of fantastic educational videos and catching-up on all the goodies in the months to come, inshallah, yay 😁

  12. Jazakallah khair Paul. Told you Ustadh Carl Sherif is awesome. Please Invite him to speak on Worldview, Islam & Western Worldview. Like he did in this Video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlLNsWhFy1c&list=PLgrhw8sbiJg21XuU1On8rRrl5pHOdrX3G&index=1&t=5s&ab_channel=Caliph

    Many Muslim Youth Have No Clue About World View, Internalizing Western Worldview Without Any Realization & When It Conflict with islam which eventually will, they have crisis in faith

  13. I highly appreciate this powerful solid work.

    I can not thank you Carl and Paul enough , may Allah grant you the best in this life and the next life.
    since the beginning of the normalization of this issue, and I have been waiting for an expert to talk about it at length, without shortcuts, without simplifying.

    And there you are! you clearly and deeply went all the way through it.
    May allah make us of those rooted in Knowledge (الراسخون في العلم)

  14. Don't invert your values! Every great values at the time of prophets are inverted! The new unique world religion is anti religion! Understand your books (what ever is your religion)! Read them and take the conclusion by yourself! Think, think! You do not need videos if you think!! That is what all a religion is about!

  15. my main issue with the world today is that intellectual discussion like this don't seem to sway people who are fully invested in entertainment and their feelings. In fact, it seems that a large majority of the world population especially those in western countries care little about facts and history and more about the entertainment value of it all. They feign intellectual integrity while wisping away in blind tomfoolery.
    It's very hard to convince people who choose their desires over the facts of the matter.

  16. Dr.sabbir ali opinion about this topic is the best…bc what he said is "Homosexuality is not a sin but homosexual act is."…To me it makes sense to me….at the same time I am not a scholar ….. either… Thank you…

  17. Jazakallah khyran Brother Paul. This is a needed elixir for our desperate times. Jazakallah to the guest for fitting a life time of study and research into such an awesome presentation (including verifiable references). Bravo. May this be added to your measure of good deeds and he hujja for us all in the hereafter.

  18. They most cause they are alliance with lgbtq and lefties that give them special treatment and appeasement than Christians so they most go along otherwise their preferential treatment will be lifted, so shut up and go along.

  19. Timestamps:
    0:00 – Introduction
    0:16 – Background of the Guest
    0:39 – Topic of the Presentation
    2:07 – Introduction to the Topic
    6:38 – Title of the Presentation
    7:45 – Contents of the Presentation
    11:06 – LGBT in Literature
    13:27 – LGBT in Media
    15:44 – LGBT in Schools
    17:49 – LGBT in Global Affairs
    21:42 – Burger King Pride Whopper
    26:37 – LGBT & Islam
    32:53 – The Sexual Revolution
    59:10 – Amalgamation & Separation
    1:15:56 – Sexual Revolution: Antecedents
    1:46:48 – Homosexuality in the wake of the Sexual Revolution
    1:54:59 – On the creation of the Male & Female
    1:57:06 – Men & Women in the Qur'an
    2:00:39 – Difference & Complementarity of the Male & Female
    2:05:32 – The Nature of Morality & Ethics in Islam
    2:12:24 – Contemporary Moral & Ethical Discourse
    2:15:46 – Islamic Sexual & Gender Norms
    2:18:36 – Consequences of Zina
    2:20:14 – Norms for minimising Zina
    2:22:00 – Is zina the only thing forbidden in the realm of sexuality?
    2:22:44 – What is permitted?
    2:23:03 – What is prohibited?
    2:25:41 – Protection of Family/Lineage in Sharia
    2:28:56 – Further Islamic Principles about gender
    2:31:59 – Islamic Position on the Non-Binary
    2:34:16 – Is one sinful for having homosexual feelings?
    2:36:58 – The "Genderbread" Person
    2:38:26 – Gender (Non) conformity in Islam
    2:46:56 – What is Homosexuality?
    1. The Contemporary Background
    2:52:04 – Amalgamation & Separation
    2:53:58 – Verses on the People of Lot pbuh
    3:09:53 – 2. Building an Islamic Framework (1)
    3:11:18 – Answering "What does Islam say about Homosexuality?"
    3:11:55 – Implications of accepting Western sexual identity framework?
    3:13:51 – Building an Islamic Framework (2)
    3:16:29 – Straight Struggles: The Subjective Experience
    3:25:41 – Further Questions
    3:26:42 – Gay Men being able to function Heterosexually
    3:28:42 – More Questions
    3:30:20 – Working Towards Principles:
    3:30:27 – 1. Strongly establish Islamic gender/sexuality paradigm
    3:34:39 – 2. Rejection of sexual identity paradigm
    3:36:43 – 3. No Gay Exceptionalism
    3:40:06 – 4. Balancing feelings vs objective truths
    3:41:56 – 5. Supporting the faithful struggler
    3:42:31 – 6. Maintaining the Straight Path
    3:44:14 – Some Resources
    3:46:45 – "A way beyond the rainbow" podcast
    3:50:48 – Closing Remarks

    SubhanAllah ❤️🤍💖
    Brilliant & Pertinent Discussion 👍🏻👌🏻
    May Allah ﷻ bless you both and reward you for your efforts. 🤲🏻

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