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Coronavirus Pandemic Update 40: Ibuprofen and COVID-19 (are NSAIDs safe?), Trials of HIV medications



Coronavirus (COVID-19) Update 40 with critical care specialist Roger Seheult, MD of https://www.MedCram.com

Controversy surrounding the use of NSAID medications like ibuprofen and naproxen with COVID-19 infection have heightened now that the French government has issued warnings against them (Please Note: since the release of this video the WHO has walked back their warning about ibuprofen and coronavirus, and has said they are “not aware” of any negative effects. Dr. Seheult also discusses preliminary fatality data in the United States released by the CDC, and the results of a novel coronavirus treatment trial with HIV medications Lopinavir and Ritonavir in hospitalized COVID-19 patients.

Correction: Dr. C. J. Loizeaux was from Des Moines, Iowa (not Idaho).

PLEASE NOTE: This video was recorded on March 19, 2020. Our more recent COVID-19 updates can be accessed free at our website https://www.medcram.com/courses/coronavirus-outbreak-symptoms-treatment or here on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLQ_IRFkDInv_zLVFTgXA8tW0Mf1iiuuM_

We’ve produced each COVID-19 video with the best information we could access at the time of recording. Naturally, some videos will contain information that has become outdated or replaced by better information or research.

That said, we believe each video contains concepts that have enduring value and reviewing how the response to COVID-19 has progressed over time may be of interest to you as well.

Website LINKS from this video:

https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/some-states-have-seen-phenomenal-increase-coronavirus-tests-u-s-n1160656

https://academic.oup.com/cid/article/49/9/1405/301441

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2001282?query=featured_home

https://www.jpost.com/HEALTH-SCIENCE/World-Health-Organization-backs-call-to-avoid-ibuprofen-for-coronavirus-621408

https://www.pharmacists.ca/cpha-ca/assets/File/cpha-on-the-issues/Use-of-NSAIDs-in-patients-with-COVID-19-FINAL-EN.pdf

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/pdfs/mm6912e2-H.pdf

Types of Data & Measurement Scales: Nominal, Ordinal, Interval and Ratio

PLEASE NOTE: This video was recorded on March 19, 2020. Our more recent COVID-19 updates can be accessed free at our website https://www.medcram.com/courses/coron… or here on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list…

We’ve produced each COVID-19 video with the best information we could access at the time of recording. Naturally, some videos will contain information that has become outdated or replaced by better information or research.

That said, we believe each video contains concepts that have enduring value and reviewing how the response to COVID-19 has progressed over time may be of interest to you as well.

Some previous videos from this series (visit MedCram.com for the full series):

-Coronavirus Pandemic Update 39: Rapid COVID-19 Spread with Mild or No Symptoms, More on Treatment: https://youtu.be/AToF8O5T86s
-Coronavirus Pandemic Update 38: How Hospitals & Clinics Can Prepare for COVID-19, Global Cases Surge: https://youtu.be/MoisrCTu0SY
-Coronavirus Pandemic Update 37: The ACE-2 Receptor – The Doorway to COVID-19 (ACE Inhibitors & ARBs): https://youtu.be/1vZDVbqRhyM
– Coronavirus Pandemic Update 36: Flatten The COVID-19 Curve, Social Distancing, Hospital Capacities: https://youtu.be/vww1nIIoqmw
– Coronavirus Pandemic Update 35: New Outbreaks & Travel Restrictions, Possible COVID-19 Treatments: https://youtu.be/vE4_LsftNKM
– Coronavirus Epidemic Update 34: US Cases Surge, Chloroquine & Zinc Treatment Combo, Italy Lockdown: https://youtu.be/U7F1cnWup9M
– Coronavirus Epidemic Update 33: COVID-19 Medication Treatment Trials, Global Testing Remains Limited: https://youtu.be/Mm7UrZeu-74
– Coronavirus Epidemic Update 32: Important Data from South Korea, Can Zinc Help Prevent COVID-19? https://youtu.be/Eeh054-Hx1U
– Coronavirus Epidemic Update 31: Mortality Rate, Cleaning Products, A More/Less Severe Virus Strain? https://youtu.be/7YI2tOoVVpk
– Coronavirus Epidemic Update 30: More Global COVID-19 Outbreaks, Vitamin D May Aid Prevention: https://youtu.be/gmqgGwT6bw0
– Coronavirus Epidemic Update 29: Testing problems, mutations, COVID-19 in Washington & Iran: https://youtu.be/XjEacUyp4vY

– How Coronavirus Kills: Acute Respiratory Distress Syndrome (ARDS) & Treatment: https://youtu.be/okg7uq_HrhQ

Many other videos on COVID-19 and other medical topics at MedCam.com

Speaker: Roger Seheult, MD
Board Certified in Internal Medicine, Pulmonary Disease, Critical Care, and Sleep Medicine.

Produced by Kyle Allred, PA

Media Contact: Hayley@MedCram.com

MedCram medical videos are for medical education and exam preparation, and NOT intended to replace recommendations from your doctor.
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41 thoughts on “Coronavirus Pandemic Update 40: Ibuprofen and COVID-19 (are NSAIDs safe?), Trials of HIV medications

  1. Hi Dr. Roger, I live in the Philadelphia Suburbs, and my Nephew and his wife live in Center Citer Phila. I KNOW I heard our Gov. Wolf said for everyone to shelter in place, except for food shopping, drug store, or Doctor visit, which I have been doing for the past 3 weeks. I will only go outside to take out the garbage or pick up a parcel from my front door. I spoke to my 35 year old recently married nephew today and he said they go grocery shopping once a week and take daily walks for 6-10 miles! He said de does see a small amount of people walking too, and sometimes not any. I told him this long distance was a NoNo, by the Gov. He said it was their exercise. Who is correct?

  2. My conclusion is no NSAIDS and Body Cooling. Temple Univ where I did my 2nd Undergrad Degree was evaluating Body Cooling in the '60s for traumatic injuries. My recommendation for Heat Exhaustion and Stroke is Ice packs to the Skull/neck as well as the axilla and Groin.

  3. So for a person who has yet to start producing relevant antibodies, and doesn't have secondary infections, the issue of ibuprofen inhibiting antibody production seems like a moot issue… so maybe helpful for more serious cases where hope is thin, but not good for the general population where imminent antibody production is expected and shouldn't be interfered with.

  4. Because of panic about NSAIDS, now there is no acetaminophen the shelves. Neither are good to take too much, so why would they need more than one bottle? will not cure anything, nor medically necessary. Saw a few rolls of paper towels (good for someone who is scared of running out), so I passed the up, cuz although convenient, life will not end without paper towels. I was happy about a small bottle of bleach, it will last long time. No hand sanitizer anywhere, but it was pretty easy to whip up with 91% alcohol , peroxide and glycerol. Last resort to make my own, but had no choice when I am out at the store, it keeps me protected. Thanks for videos, from MedCram, and I look forward to the updates and hoping our doctor can keep it up, when the surge gets to CA.

  5. Thanks for your videos. This is a huge and great work you are doing. About Covid-19 and NSAIDs, the only useful study I can find is "Indomethacin has a potent antiviral activity against SARS coronavirus." from Amici et al. 2006 and it looks like indomethacin could be beneficial. But obviously one study isn't enough. Did you some more studies about NSAIDs and SARS-Cov-1 or 2?

  6. Ibuprofen made me worst, I was thinking it wasn’t strong enough and was popping them like skittles….. the fevers chills headaches body aches felt like I would never feel normal again, night time it was a beast

  7. At this moment, citizens in New York have reported empty hospitals and empty testing centers, showing footage of it, and talking to ambulance drivers who can't say how many COVID-19 cases they've seen that day. Nurses at the reception are the only human beings in the hospital, while CBS reports long lines of people waiting to enter, for testing or treatment. Some amateur reporters are stopped, and told off, but I've seen footage showing empty hospitals, even one German guy walked through an entire hospital in Berlin, showing the empty rooms, hallways, and the reception. No one stopped him! Are we in a make-belief scenario?

  8. Btw, about thermal therapy. Im a doctor, a general practitioner. When my daughter got her DPT vaccine shoot, she was 3 m.o, i didnt give her NSAIDS for her fever. Instead, i use a bottle of hot water, wrapped with cloth, just enough to make it not burning but still hot enough. Then every time her temperature rise, there is an inflamation around the spot where she got the injection. It was bulging, red and, hot. So what i did is i place the wrapped bottle over the inflamation while brestfed to shoothe her. And…as the inflamation reduced so does her temperature, not too long, around 10-15 minutes for the fever to resolve. I repeated everytime she started to develop fever. So, i use no NSAID at all and succeded reduce her fever.

  9. So great…but what should we do if we get symptoms? Just do nothing? In regular flu I take Bayer or Nyquil at night…or Alka Seltzer Plus and Afrin nasal spray.

  10. Ibuprofen is not recommended then in normal cases, but what if the patient's antibodies are going into overdrive, wouldn't it be better to reduce the antibody response in these cases using Ibuprofen or a lesser drug?.

  11. Dr Seheult, I have recently discovered your channel and am a new fan! I am a nurse practitioner who has completed the integrative medicine program throught the University of Arizona Center for Integrative Medicine. I was fascinated by our unit on osteopathic manuipulation (low velocity manipulation as opposed to high velocity chiropratic manipulation). There is a technique we learned that opens the ribcage a few extra centimeters. We learned this was used in the 1918 influenza pandemic and that those patients had higher survival rates. This fact alway stuck with me. As you talk about what we can do at home to enhance survival this techinique could be one of those things. It is simple. You reach under the back of a supine person from the side with both hands palm up. Your fingertips find the edge of the spine. You then push your fingers gently up and draw them back out pulling the ribcage gently outward. Do this on both sides several times the length of the ribcage. I wonder if you would consider researching oestopathic interventions for respiratory illness and what we know about this during the 1918 pandemic. This to me, is in the category of possible help, low risk.

  12. It figures because when we give vaccines to babies, we ask parents not to give paracetamol with aspirin. Why? Because it interferes with the antibody reaction which is the REASON for a vaccine.

  13. Doctors in south america are using ibuprofen, steroids and antibiotics in case of fever. Super effective. My friend's wife was recovered with steroids. In fact they are upset about this type of disinformation. they are not following suggestions given by the WHO.

  14. I've been doing yoga 6 days a week two different gyms.
    In late January early February I had a dry cough and I seem to be getting better and then it hit me really hard.
    On Monday February 3rd I had to go to my doctor because I was having trouble breathing. In fact I had to sleep in my easy chair for three nights because when I lay flat I was drowning in fluid.
    Doctor said the lungs were clear but I had a sinus infection and gave me a steroid, an antibiotic and a cough suppressant.
    The whole illness took about six to eight weeks to fully pass.
    I've recently learned that other people in the yoga class at one of the gyms also got this kind of illness in late January early February and one was admitted to ICU. This is all before Coronavirus was in the news in the United States.
    I thought it was one of the worst flus I've ever had as far as trouble breathing.
    I almost went to the emergency room but I have a $600 copay so I suffered till Monday February 3rd when I could get in to see my doctor.
    Now if only the United States was big enough tall enough and strong enough to have a reliable antibody test I'd be glad to be donating plasma right now.

  15. My dad is diagnosed with COVID positive yesterday which is the 14th day of his viral. He has almost recovered from it as he showing no fever, cough, headache, and body aches. He has a slight dry cough and we are giving him HCQ, Vitamin-C, and Zincovit one daily also Nebulized Budesonide and Ipratropium. Should I consult my doctor to give nebulized heparin? Please suggest.

  16. In 2018 November 8 I had my first Stroke, After returning from my friends house, immediately I was rushed to the Community health Care. The neurologist said that I had been having "mini-strokes" or "Trans Ischemic Attacks (TIA's)" for years. All the physicians agreed that a congenital heart problem called Atrial Septal Defect was causing the strokes. After the first major stroke, however, I was not well enough to undergo the corrective heart surgery. Stroke affected vital pathways in my brain, causing constant electric-like pain on the left side of my body. After the second stroke, I was placed on machines aided life support and the doctors tried all they could but I wasn't recovering they decided i give a traditional herbal doctor a try, since all they have done to revive me was to no avail. A college friend of mine had a uncle who was a traditional herbal doctor; "Dr Odia" he base in Tampa, Fl and has helped so many people all over the world with his herbal formula; so they said. My Children were reluctant to give his herbal formula for stroke a try, they needed me to get well by any means necessary because their mum died of Cancer years Ago. They were willing to go any Length for a cure. Well to God be the Glory Dr Odia was a God sent, he placed me on his medication, although he wasn't present, but with his instructions my children where able to administer his medication, I regained the ability to walk, speak clearly and drive very well. To God alone I give all the glory and am for ever greatful to Dr Odia for being a hand of God in my Life. I want people to think back to Natural herbs, that's why am sharing this.i believe God has hidden the solutions to all sickness and diseases in Natural herbs and root that we don't pay much attention to.Am a living testimony of Natural herbs and root. If you or a loved one is going through a deadly diseases that seems impossible to cure totally, believe me root and herbs is the Solution. You can on his Facebook page "Dr Odia" for all in need of a permanent cure to stroke or any other Chronic disease. ( Dr Odia Herbalist Home ) on Facebook.

  17. Thanks to Dr Eddymon for his good work I never believe that HIV has cure, I was HIV positive over 3 year now before I came across a comment about how
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  18. Ibuprofen has proven to be a safe and effective medication to manage Covid19, in South American Countries doctors are treating infected patients with a protocol of Ibuprofen, zinc and flu meds and most of those patients when treated early do not progress into needing oxygen or hospitalization that includes elderly people, so In my opinion rather than do nothing and die at least give Ibuprofen a go instead of resorting to be hospitalized and intubated which will certainly mean death caused by the intubation which damages the lungs. It is my belief that there is an agenda here in advising against using this medication and it is coming from the WHO, organization that has proven beyond doubt that IS NOT WORKING FOR OUR BENEFIT, but instead is trying to herd us towards a vaccine .

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